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	<title>Comments on: IWM and Shadow Server Project Report:  Shadows in the Clouds</title>
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		<title>By: BeatUpPride</title>
		<link>http://www.thedarkvisitor.com/2010/04/iwm-and-shadow-server-project-report-shadows-in-the-clouds/comment-page-1/#comment-4638</link>
		<dc:creator>BeatUpPride</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 05:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>7 million!!!@_@  

Considering the &quot;power&quot; ones can have by controlling those 7 million machines, the externalities caused by those PCs running pirated Windows OS hugely outcome the negative impact to Microsoft&#039;s revenue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>7 million!!!@_@  </p>
<p>Considering the &#8220;power&#8221; ones can have by controlling those 7 million machines, the externalities caused by those PCs running pirated Windows OS hugely outcome the negative impact to Microsoft&#8217;s revenue.</p>
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		<title>By: CBRP1R8</title>
		<link>http://www.thedarkvisitor.com/2010/04/iwm-and-shadow-server-project-report-shadows-in-the-clouds/comment-page-1/#comment-4637</link>
		<dc:creator>CBRP1R8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 20:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.darknet.org.uk/2010/04/china-reports-millions-of-conficker-infections/

Pulled from Darknet UK today...beware the china botnet... :D</description>
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<p>Pulled from Darknet UK today&#8230;beware the china botnet&#8230; <img src='http://www.thedarkvisitor.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: BeatUpPride</title>
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		<dc:creator>BeatUpPride</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 12:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way,  I am experiencing a severe delay each time I try to access a Chinese web site recently.....is that only me?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way,  I am experiencing a severe delay each time I try to access a Chinese web site recently&#8230;..is that only me?</p>
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		<title>By: BeatUpPride</title>
		<link>http://www.thedarkvisitor.com/2010/04/iwm-and-shadow-server-project-report-shadows-in-the-clouds/comment-page-1/#comment-4623</link>
		<dc:creator>BeatUpPride</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 11:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great read! 

Thanks for posting the link!

As I know, lots of people wants to do research on related topics. As Jumper pointed out, either they are lack of fund or the resources (connections in China, etc) to do a research in such topics.

Also, one of the important elements for a successful investigation is the full support or cooperation from the victims. From this article, I can feel that the authors and the victims have established a trust relationship. I don&#039;t think anyone can do that easily.   

Again, thanks for the post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great read! </p>
<p>Thanks for posting the link!</p>
<p>As I know, lots of people wants to do research on related topics. As Jumper pointed out, either they are lack of fund or the resources (connections in China, etc) to do a research in such topics.</p>
<p>Also, one of the important elements for a successful investigation is the full support or cooperation from the victims. From this article, I can feel that the authors and the victims have established a trust relationship. I don&#8217;t think anyone can do that easily.   </p>
<p>Again, thanks for the post!</p>
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		<title>By: jumper</title>
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		<dc:creator>jumper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 19:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Agamemnon

I thought it was a great read as was the Ghostnet report.  I would love to work on projects like that.</description>
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<p>I thought it was a great read as was the Ghostnet report.  I would love to work on projects like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Agamemnon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Agamemnon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 18:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was actually a pretty good read...thumbs up on the honorable mention...I&#039;m passing this around to a few select cohorts...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was actually a pretty good read&#8230;thumbs up on the honorable mention&#8230;I&#8217;m passing this around to a few select cohorts&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jumper</title>
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		<dc:creator>jumper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 13:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jaimon,

Great questions.

Why single China out?  Because there is news about it.  Frequently.  When was the last time Xinhua reported that Indian hackers compromised the PRC government?

Why does it take a Canadian team to find this?  IWM and Shadow Server have the time and resources to spend on it and it is in their interest to publish the report.  I&#039;m sure there are groups in other countries looking at this sort of thing but they may not be in a position to make their work public.

Thanks for stopping by.

Regards,

Brian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jaimon,</p>
<p>Great questions.</p>
<p>Why single China out?  Because there is news about it.  Frequently.  When was the last time Xinhua reported that Indian hackers compromised the PRC government?</p>
<p>Why does it take a Canadian team to find this?  IWM and Shadow Server have the time and resources to spend on it and it is in their interest to publish the report.  I&#8217;m sure there are groups in other countries looking at this sort of thing but they may not be in a position to make their work public.</p>
<p>Thanks for stopping by.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Brian</p>
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		<title>By: Jaimon Joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaimon Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 06:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LHM
Respected Sir,
Congratulations on getting quoted in the ShadowServer report. I&#039;m an Indian journalist based in New Delhi. The strange thing is I&#039;m sure every country is spying in exactly the same way. Why single China out, everyone wants state secrets. The other thing that&#039;s bugging me - why does it take a Canadian team to find this. India is IT Savvy, so are Russia, Japan, Korea, Israel. But they&#039;ve never made any noise about China. Why the Americans and Canadians. But that&#039;s just me. I&#039;m fascinated by the detective work involved in cyber security and confess I know nothing about it. WOuld be grateful for any guidance I could get - I like to cover cybe crime stories. Do drop in a mail or call sometime. I&#039;d be very grateful. I&#039;m subscribed to your blog. Can I follow you on Linked in or any other networking site?
Thank you for your time
Jaimon Joseph
Ph: +91-9899692342</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LHM<br />
Respected Sir,<br />
Congratulations on getting quoted in the ShadowServer report. I&#8217;m an Indian journalist based in New Delhi. The strange thing is I&#8217;m sure every country is spying in exactly the same way. Why single China out, everyone wants state secrets. The other thing that&#8217;s bugging me &#8211; why does it take a Canadian team to find this. India is IT Savvy, so are Russia, Japan, Korea, Israel. But they&#8217;ve never made any noise about China. Why the Americans and Canadians. But that&#8217;s just me. I&#8217;m fascinated by the detective work involved in cyber security and confess I know nothing about it. WOuld be grateful for any guidance I could get &#8211; I like to cover cybe crime stories. Do drop in a mail or call sometime. I&#8217;d be very grateful. I&#8217;m subscribed to your blog. Can I follow you on Linked in or any other networking site?<br />
Thank you for your time<br />
Jaimon Joseph<br />
Ph: +91-9899692342</p>
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