Dec 22 2009

PRC Internet “most free”

Published by at 8:56 pm under Censorship

My 中文 isn’t nearly as good as Heike’s (as demonstrated here) but I do believe that this pic posted to sunwear‘s baidu blog says that the PRC Internet is the most free.  You might remember sunwear – he is the one that arp-jacked

UPDATE:  Found this image (via @torproject) at

9 responses so far

9 Responses to “PRC Internet “most free””

  1. cbrp1r8on 24 Dec 2009 at 9:57 am

    I don’t know so much about free-est internet but the spam and botnet population seems to have dropped or at least dipped a little since they made the change of requiring a business licsense now for registering websites w/ domain…hopefully that’ll stop all the botnet gangs and criminals (one can only hope it helps)….

    in other news..saw this …this a.m. …We would also like to highlight a vulnerability in the Woopra Analytics plugin for WordPress. A recent update has removed a PHP script that could be used to upload arbitrary files which could result in a system compromise. WordPress users should install the latest version or manually remove the “ofc_upload_image.php” file from the Open Flash Directory. Please review the vendor’s changelog for additional information.

    I know you all use wordpress so thought i’d share…..Merry Xmas to all and a Happy New Year…CBRP1R8

  2. jumperon 24 Dec 2009 at 1:51 pm

    Happy Holidays CBRP1R8 and the three other TDV readers (where is eastwood?).

    Thanks for the WP tip.

  3. thePullon 27 Dec 2009 at 11:27 pm

    Free internet is probably the second greatest single danger to China’s current status quo… you know, the hardliners responsible for keeping China in the dark ages, economically and politically.

    The internet allows people to congregate, to organize… nationally and internationally. It allows the creation of groups around information, ideas. It allows people with similar interests to get together and discuss. For totalitarian systems this is extremely dangerous, especially considering the ease of anonymity for these systems.

    The information on the internet is also largely free. And it is much more difficult to censor information coming in from it then it is incoming books, movies, and other media.

    Outgoing free internet from China is equally crucial… as with all totalitarian systems. With the video/camera in a cell phone… now the people can spy/report on “big brother”. And post those images/vid online to international audiences with some degree of anonymity.

    like aldous huxley said, ‘he who controls the media controls the mind’…

    Information is important to control for any cult, on a micro level, or totalitarian nation, on a macro level. Next to that need for control to sustain a delusional bubble is to prevent people from freely congregating.

    In terms of gaining information… the internet is far easier to search for then a library and such, making it much more dangerous. Historically, all sorts of information have inspired people who fight within against their totalitarian or cultic system… it could nearly be anything. Some bit of news, some paper by a philosopher or other writer, and so on.

    The single biggest threat to china’s status quo, their hardliners, would be themselves, of course. Having systems, economic or otherwise, which are constrained without proper checks and balances means the systems can not produce the excellence which comes from open systems.

    It is just like the olympics. If the atheletes chosen for the olympics were chosen by nepotism, the olympics would be very boring and the atheletes would be common. Free systems are required for proper competition, and only proper competition can produce the excellence nations need to succeed.

    We have enough problems in the free world with checks and balances… one can only imagine the sorts of problems China must really be dealing with.

    Historically, totalitarian nations, where they have had successes, these successes have come by decimating other systems, which often mean portions of the population. This is currently how China succeeds at all.

    Lotsa opinions there stated as if they were facts. You decide… :) Anyway, food for thought for anyone else who thinks about these things. (I, personally, however do believe it is up for the chinese to change china, though I also believe if China continues on their current course it threatens the world because their economy and system is so entwined with everyone else’s.)

  4. CBRP1R8on 29 Dec 2009 at 12:45 pm

    Well it does look like at least one part of Chinternet is not so free anymore…here’s a little story I pulled from today’s news..about crackdown in the illegal porn and gaming sectors…oh an mobile…

    Have a very Merry New year! I know I will.. :-D

  5. BeatUpPrideon 04 Jan 2010 at 10:39 pm

    Happy New Year to you all! As always, thank you for the great contents and I really enjoy reading your blog every each time!

    By the way, I still remember that a whole province’s (called Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region?) Internet connection was cut off after a deadly riot. The people in that area are definitely “free” from any Internet worm infection….

  6. cerison 04 Jan 2010 at 11:30 pm

    You have to live in China to see what that great firewall of China can do. I think all they are doing is protecting the people by blocking them from imperialism. American don’t like communists, so it is the same. China does something instead of letting the adversaries infiltrate China though. I live here, and although internet is really slow, I like it.

  7. Jerryon 05 Jan 2010 at 2:47 am

    Long time lurker, first time poster, and I have this to say to you guys:

    Jumper, you folks owe me abut $10 worth of damn good scotch from the spit take I did from reading this.

    If you feel like doing some language training and further lolz:

    They think us Americans have mind control weapons, and attributed the source to Washington Post.

  8. jumperon 05 Jan 2010 at 11:24 am

    @BeatUpPride – happy new year to you. Thanks.

    @ceris – Thanks for your comment and for your unique point of view. A lot of people assume that people in the PRC are desperate to circumvent the GFW but I have found that really isn’t the case. Most people are interested in the interwebs for shopping and entertainment – both of which are in good supply in China. My experience with circumvention tools has been that more people use them to download porn than to visit dissident websites. The thing that bothers westerners about the GFW is that the choice is made by the government rather than the individual. In my opinion, people should be able to make their own choices about what to read and write.

    @Jerry – sorry about the scotch. Thanks for stopping by.

  9. BeatUpPrideon 05 Jan 2010 at 8:43 pm

    @ceris, in Chinese there is a saying “Jing Di Zhi Wa”, stupidly translated in English as “A Frog in a Well” something like that. I think you got what I wanna say. I really don’t understand you praising the GFW, even though I am a Chinese myself and lived in China for a long time.

    Come out from your “Well” and see the world!