Mar 07 2008

Chinese hacker Xiao Chen

Published by at 5:30 pm under Hackers Talking,US attacks

UPDATE: Xiao Chen’s website located


CNN reporter John Vause has a very interesting article on a Chinese hacker by the name of Xiao Chen and his group. They actually seem very typical of the entire community, except for the claims of hacking the Pentagon and getting paid by the Chinese government.   These claims can probably be taken with a grain or two of salt since they were being interviewed.  Not saying it isn’t possible, just saying.  As to whether or not the PRC would pay for the information, yes and no. If it is true, I think they would consider the source of the intelligence, like…would this group of hackers later do an interview with CNN and tell them everything.

One other point, without knowing the name of the website it is very difficult
to tell how much influence it has within the Red Hacker Alliance. However, 10,000 registered members is not that many for the average Chinese hacker website. In fact, it is pretty average.

There was one quote from Chen that I really liked and that I agree with 100%:

‘First, you must know about the Web site you want to attack. You must know what program it is written with,’ says Xiao Chen. There is a saying, ‘Know about both yourself and the enemy, and you will be invincible.’

Now for those of you who don’t know, that is straight out of the Art of War by Sun Zi (Sun Tzu). And, the reason I started this blog.

The full article on Xiao Chen is here… Chinese hacker Xiao Chen

14 responses so far

14 Responses to “Chinese hacker Xiao Chen”

  1. P Con 08 Mar 2008 at 1:41 am

    So what is Xiao-Chen’s website? 10000 visitors and no one know the name of the website?

  2. Heikeon 08 Mar 2008 at 6:40 am

    Here is a small piece I did on the numbers involved in Chinese hacker websites:

    As you can see, 10,000 really isn’t that many. Thought about looking for Xiao Chen but the only thing I would have to go off of would be his surname. Chen is right up there with Smith as a last name.

    Thought I might look for him today and see what the Chinese hackers were talking about. Usually takes them one or two days to pick up on any US news related to them and xlate it into Chinese. They might mention who he is and what website he runs.

  3. Heikeon 08 Mar 2008 at 7:07 am


    Here is one of the first articles coming out in Chinese news on the CNN interview with Xiao Chen:

    Don’t know if you read Chinese or not but it has a couple of cool pics attached.

    So, we may eventually find out which website he is associated with.

  4. freda d. darkon 08 Mar 2008 at 4:54 pm

    without the hacker’s website, this story is completely unverifiable. it should be regarded as propaganda.

  5. Heikeon 08 Mar 2008 at 5:36 pm

    Freda d. dark,

    Agreed, that it does hurt the article somewhat. The interview may have been granted with the understanding of not printing anything that would lead back to them. However, I do understand your point and would like to find out myself…especially if they did hack my Pentagon. Yes, it is mine. :)

  6. Johnon 09 Mar 2008 at 3:06 am

    The website of the Chinese Hacker?

    What about… ;-)

  7. copperon 09 Mar 2008 at 3:25 am

    It’s The cnn video shows it twice, really small. It’s all in chinese though.

  8. Heikeon 09 Mar 2008 at 7:48 am


    Yeah, I checked out the website ( and it shows that the group has 9,700 and something members so it does fit the profile. Just can’t find anything else.

  9. Heikeon 09 Mar 2008 at 8:43 am


    WOW!! You know I posted to your comment without really noticing you said VIDEO. Just sort of thought you were talking about the article. I would fire myself if I didn’t work so darn cheap. :) HUGE button right above the article that said VIDEO…yeah, didn’t catch that. Thank you so much for this tip and you are absolutely right it is the site! I’m going to put up something on this in a few minutes.

    Thanks again!!!

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  11. Masqueon 10 Mar 2008 at 5:02 pm

    Use Google to translate if you really want to read it.

    Put in your search and click Translate this Page when it comes up as a search result.

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  13. mnazarunon 05 May 2008 at 11:10 pm

    haii… i wanna be your member in civiliant cyber

  14. mnazarunon 05 May 2008 at 11:13 pm

    haii…. i wanna be civiliant cyber